Thursday, July 14, 2005

BROWN SOAP OPERA ENTERS FINAL COUNT DOWN -- YIPPEE!!

It ends today.
Pistons Coach Larry Brown had last night to think about his future with the ball club and he has until this afternoon to tell the Pistons his intentions. Pistons owner Bill Davidson wanted to know what Brown can do for the Pistons this upcoming season.
Details of Wednesday's meeting remain sketchy but the issue of Brown versus the Pistons will be resolved today. We might not get full disclosure but this is the final meeting.
Brown will either be bought out of his contract or the Pistons will get assurances from Brown that he will coach the team next season with full zest and desire.
Finally, we get the final count down of his two-month stare down.
This has dragged out way too long. We understand Brown has health issues. He was in pain after three surgeries this season, including a procedure to fix his bladder last week.
But Brown's return was hazy way back in November. Brown told his boys around the league before the season began that he was unsure if he could return to coach the 2005-2006 season. Since there are few secrets in the NBA, the Pistons caught wind of this.
They became worried and were taking mental notes on possible replacements during the gloomy days of winter.
They had to. The Pistons were worried Brown would make a quick exit like Allan Houston and Grant Hill. They were fearful of him holding them hostage like Doug Collins did a few seasons ago when he went deep into the summer not knowing if he would return.
It is time for the Pistons to move on with or without Brown. And Brown needs to tell the Pistons what is on his mind. It is one thing to tell the media you want to return and coach the Pistons. It is another to tell Dumars and Davidson, which he failed to do.
I will give Brown this much. He knows how to put on a good show. The only thing missing in this drama was the car chases.
The drama ends today. I cannot wait for the exciting conclusion.

39 Comments:

Blogger billionaire said...

Okay Terry I still say ride it out. I just feel Brown is the best and flip I am sorry is not in the same league. Just watch how the comparions will start the moment things don;t go well. What happens if the team get;s bounced out in the first or second round. I also say ride it out so Larry can say yes or no so that way the pistons can have the PR win and thus buy a season or two reprieve. Now If you think this situation is jacked up look at Miami. I know it has been flying under the radar but Riley is about to do some of the cold hardest things I have seen in Basketball.

8:20 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Terry,

I think there is an element that is missing here. What about that $12 million a year carrot New York is putting out there?

Is this truly a health issue or is Brown just trying to find the exit to his "dream job." Yes Davidson and Dumars will make the final decision, but what if Brown just says, by forcing me to commit to unforseen conditions, they have put me in a position that puts my health in jeopardy. New York on the other hand has offered more flexibility. Therefore, I "must" leave.

Have they given him an out to step right into his "dream job?"

Who will be the villain if he goes to New York? I'm sure the Pistons fans will say Brown, but on the other hand, he has already stepped up and sacraficed his health onces for the Pistons, is it asking too much if they "seemingly" force him to sacrafice his health again, as a condition of employment?

Coaching is coaching so a health problem here will certainly be a health problem in New York, however, have they just given him a potential out?

Interestingly enough, Brown has not turned the Knicks job down....Right?

9:04 AM

 
Blogger the sports dude said...

Look, there is only one Larry Brown. Is Flip Saunders a down grade? Yes, but who wouldn't be? Larry is the best coach in the NBA today, EVERY SINGLE COACH OUT THERE WOULD BE A DOWN GRADE!!!! I am tired of hearing the down grade card because it is weak since all coaches in this case are down grades.

That being said, the Pistons can't ride this out. If they miss out on Flip who are they going to get, Gar Heard? The point is the Pistons need to know, they deserve to know and they want to know. Oh, and free agency signing starts soon, if you were a free agent wouldn't you want to know if LB, Flip or Gar was going to be your next coach? Might make a difference, don't you think?

Lastly, what about a player mutiny? Don't give me that crap about the Pistons being the "most professional group of players in the league" crap. Look, if I was a "professional", right or not, it would piss me off if my coach didn't know if he wanted to be here or not, especially after all that LB and the Pistons have gained together. And don't tell the the Pistons won't piss away the regular season to get LB fired, turn that switch on to squeeze in as the eighth seed and ride it out to the Finals. Like it or not Pistons fans, they damn well are good enough to do it.

Here is what I will close with - LB over Flip? In a heart beat, I am no fool. But Flip over Gar Heard or some other "left over" coach? No one is LB, but I'll be damn if Flip ain't better than leftovers! Later!

9:28 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Something hit me and I know it is far fetched but I like Mr Jeremy aka Stan Vangundy to coach over flip nobody has thrown that scenario. Stan can coach his ass off so why not his teams have improved. Just a thought .

9:35 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing you have to consider is this-

LB is most effective when he's able to teach the players. And, I don't think the players will every be 100% back "into" LB, so It not right to compare LB to flip-

Compare LB coaching at 80% (looking for the next job), plus his players are only listening to 60% of what he's saying- so all of a sudden, LB is only "working" at 50% capacity.

Compared to Flip, who could probobly give you a 95% effort, plus the players are listening to 80% of what he says.

So the true comparison is LB @50%, or Flip at 75%. Not to mention the consant media distraction LB would be.

I'd take flip, no question- Nothing against LB, but I don't think he can the "old" LB anymore- he's worn out his welcome and is out of the "circle of trust" with the players.

9:40 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right, anon, as good a coach as LB is, he would be a distraction and would lose the players, if he hasn't already. I say bring in Flippo, stability means a lot to this team. So long, Larry.

10:13 AM

 
Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

Sports Dude,

I don't think waiting this out for a bit is going to cost us a chance at Flip. Where is he going to go? He's getting $5+ mil to sit on his ass this season in any event, why would he take a garbage job and give that up? If he was going to do that, he would have already.

He's either going to coach for us, work for TNT or sit on the beach.

Losing Flip to another team is not even possible IMO, and it should have no bearing on what Davidson decides to do with LB.

Basically my stance is this, and it is echoed in today's column by A Sherrod Blakely (sorry TFos). LB will be back if Davidson wants him back.

We're all just waiting to see what the old man wants to do.

10:35 AM

 
Anonymous Brian said...

Larry Brown, Piston's coaching situation, blah blah blah.

What about what's going on in the summer league for the Pistons?

Well basically 3 rookies, first-rounder Jason Maxiel, and 2 second-rounders Amir Johnson and Alex Acker have made Darko look like he doesn't even belong in the freakin summer league. I've been a Darko supporter since he was drafted, but I'm starting to question this "talent" Darko has. If anything he should be tearing up that summer league against all those nobodies.

Oh yeah. Maybe Larry will be back.

11:05 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

brain...

If you are just now starting to question Darko's talent, you better get in to see Dr. Rhamani as soon as possible.

He comes highly recommended from the guy who coined the phrase...."Carmelo Who"

After watching Darko you better find out who, "Who" is.

11:51 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

wtfdetroit...

Davidson may want him back but, LB has a voice in this equation. It's not all about Bill.

Mentally, LB maybe in New York already. That is his "dream job." and it comes with a $12million paycheck. Look for him to get out his contract anyway he can.

When you're LB's age you don't miss those opportunities.

11:56 AM

 
Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

TRRW,

I strongly disagree.

LB has already played his cards. He has said over and over that he wants to stay.

If Davidson says, "Okay he's staying" that ends all of this.

It's all on Davidson now.

12:09 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Posturing is part of the business. If LB has his sights on NY, do you think he would say, "I want to leave." He is already concerned with his reputation as a "vagabond." Plus there is a potential financial gain, particularly if things have soured with Davidson.

I've learned a lesson over the years. When money is involved, don't believe what you hear until it's over.

12:47 PM

 
Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

But if that was the case, all Davidson would have to do is have Joe call a presser and announce that they want to retain LB and that he is their coach.

Then all the pressure would be back on LB to either quit or negotiate the buyout.

You haven't seen that, and you won't IMO, because LB has already said time and again that he wants to stay. He can't backtrack on that now.

Davidson can quell all of this right now if he wants him to stay. All he has to do is say so, which he hasn't.

1:19 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

All Brown has to do then is use his illness as a reason that he "may not" be able to coach a full year. Do the Pistons want that?

If someone wants to get fired, they will find a way.

Also, I would imagine that the conversation is different behind closed doors. I have a feeling it's all about how each saves face knowing that Brown is leaving and going to be coaching again.

If the Pistons fire him and they suck next year, they will be ridiculed. If Brown up and leaves and coaches elsewhere, he will be ridiculed. It's all about saving face.

1:59 PM

 
Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

A great new must-read column from Jason Whitlock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/050714

We need your thoughts on this one Terry!

2:25 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF,

Just read the article. Can't say I've heard THAT take before!!!

2:31 PM

 
Blogger hitman said...

Supposedly the players hated Carlisle as well and they still played hard for him. I don't buy the talk that if Larry comes back the team will tune him out. Some may not like it but they have more pride than that. Besides allowing childish antics by players to constantly dictate the general of the team is foolish. Call Joe D and Bill D what you want but foolish isn't one of them.

2:58 PM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

wtfd,
That is an interesting take by Jason Whitlock. Yet another plausible twist in the Brown saga. I am truly complexed all together. I know in the back of my mind Larry is the best option. HOwever with all of this drama perhaps I will come around and say Larry should leave and prove Joe D right on how bad a move this will be and Tom should get the boot If all is true

3:47 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read Whitlock's article and came on here to post it and was beaten to the punch! :)

Ironically, Whitlock earlier this week authored an article emphasizing what a great sports city Detroit is.

Terry, you have always been a stand up guy in the Motown media--I have a hard time believing the Pistons or anyone else have you in their "hip pocket" as Whitlock alleges.

I'm curious on your take on this article, as I'm sure the others on this blog are.

4:03 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

The only thing for certain is they have both been playing the media.

Brown says he wants to stay, Dumars says he wants him to stay. What is the problem? My guess is one of the following:

1. Larry has been at odds with BD and JD for some time. Darko, Darko, Darko. He knows he is out and he is working to leave on his own terms.
2. Too many damn ego's LB was getting too much credit. Joe D's pick of Darko is a laughing stock. Davidson doesn't ever want a figure that is too powerful from a fan perspective to dictate what happens in the organization.

Bottomline, Brown is gone.

4:42 PM

 
Anonymous sportsfroma2 said...

did anyone else just hear Pat Caputo/Art Regner just go off an that caller? I tihnk they gave him a new @$$hole, LOL. The caller was an idiot, though.

4:44 PM

 
Anonymous Brian said...

real right way,

You aint make no sense

6:22 PM

 
Blogger Ian C. said...

Geez, I want this story over with. I'm so tired of it. Whitlock's column was interesting because it provided the opposing viewpoint, but even if Davidson and Wilson are underhanded, it's hard to argue with the results of those behind-the-scenes machinations.

Joe D over Isiah? Look at what Isiah's done in New York. He just gave $30 million to Jerome James.

Larry Brown over Carlisle? The Pistons took two straight trip to the NBA Finals, and got one championship for their troubles.

I thought the Pistons were in a no-win situation before. I don't think so anymore. Flip Saunders - whom I think we all agree is no LB, but is still a quality coach - isn't taking another job if Brown comes back. He's not up for the Seattle job, and Isiah's never mentioned him in New York. Are there any other NBA coaching vacancies I'm not thinking of?

Flip's going to do what Carlisle did (or intended to do) before Indiana hired him: work in the broadcast booth until the right job opens up.

9:21 PM

 
Anonymous Sanchez said...

The Real Right Way

How come most of your posts' blow?!? Do us a favor & not waste space in here so please don't post anymore. Anyway, now Larry is "confident" he will be back with Detroit but still no definitive outcome has arised. Damn, I thought we were going to get an answer today T.

12:28 AM

 
Anonymous sportsfroma2 said...

I tihnk the online radio stream is broken again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:58 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Sanchez if TRRW blows why read quit hating. I will maintain XYT will always be second class I am still shocked that they lucked into the best sports show in Detroit and rivals any national show Sports Inferno

8:42 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Sanchez,

Is it not plausible that Larry Brown one of the best coaches in the league, wants to step up to a major market, one that he has stated was his dream job?

What about that blows, it is reality.

8:44 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

It is interesting that this is taking so long.

This just isn't about health, it sounds to me like Larry might be trying to renegotiate and use that $12million dollar carrot to his advantage.

If he stays, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a new contract involved.

I still feel like he is out of here, otherwise it would be done by now.

8:52 AM

 
Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

C'mon now Terry, we want your reaction to Whitlock's "hip pocket" claims.

Adding your thoughts about Tom Wilson's role in all of this and your opinions of him, in general, would be welcomed as well.

9:46 AM

 
Anonymous sportsfroma2 said...

YAY!, the online stream works again!

10:32 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Mike is crazy about Paul Silas.

"he pissed Eric Snow off!!!!" Who cares, who the h' is Eric Snow. He is a back up point guard that cried on the bench when Silas didn't play him.

Silas would be just as good if not better than Flip.

12:45 PM

 
Anonymous Brian said...

ANTI-"REAL"_RIGHT_WAY CLUB

All members welcomed.

Requirements: Long drawn out posts that don't make sense along with an ego the size of Mars are not cared for by the members of the club.

The only reality you live in is your fantasy land of conspiracies. Thanks for taking the "Real" point of view.

1:02 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

brian...

Is the presidents spot open. I want to apply.

1:59 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Pat Riley possibly returning to coaching...

Wow, send Brown packing now. Get Riley in here ASAP.

4:53 PM

 
Anonymous Mike said...

Shut up real right way... you're stupid!!!

1:24 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Mike,

I wish you could enlighten me on where I am being stupid.

Is it the Paul Silas comment? If so, just look at what Flip did with Sprewell, Cassell, and others. That makes Silas' rif with Snow look like a game of tag as compared to a whole team quiting on him.

11:19 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

trrw Mike uses MIKE V.

4:08 PM

 
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