Friday, June 24, 2005

DUNCAN TKO'S PISTONS AND SHEED

Rasheed Wallace did not speak to the media which is appropriate since he was silent during most of the NBA Finals.
He blew Game 5, blew up in Game 6 and then completely disappeared in Game 7.
Rasheed giveth and he taketh away.
Perhaps it was too much to ask the Pistons to win two straight games in San Antonio. Perhaps we should not be surprised that super star Tim Duncan stepped up and lead the Spurs to a 81-74 victory to snatch the championship rings and belts from the Pistons.
I can't help but think Sheed's decision to leave Robert Horry, the NBA Finals all-time three artist, alone at the three-point line was the difference in this series.
One mental blunder by the least stable of the Pistons starters.
Sometimes that is all it takes to separate two very good teams. That is why focus should be the main priority for the Pistons next season. Of course a scorer off the bench would not hurt either.
But we will get to that on another day.
Strangely I felt proud of the Pistons even in defeat. Both teams went at each other like mad dogs going after raw meat. Unfortunately there must be a winner and a loser.
The difference is the Spurs leaned on their super star. Duncan pounded the Pistons for 25 points and 11 rebounds. And he also set his teammates up. He was so terrific that the Pistons felt the need to double team him more than usual.
If he wasn't slicing through the double team he passed to open teammates who sank seven of 11 three-point shots. It seemed as if every point went to Duncan or through Duncan.
Duncan validated himself as a great player. You would think a two-time Finals MVP would not have to do that. But he had to because the big fella' gagged down the stretch for the three games at The Palace. He seemed to tire and you could see doubt and fear cross his brow.
But on this night he out muscled the Pistons strong men. He once again showed why teams feel most comfortable with a super star in their line up.
The Pistons simply could not match him. And when they stopped moving the ball and hit their usual scoring lull, this game was over. This is where Bruce Bowen comes in. He made things difficult for Rip Hamilton during much of the series and he slowed Chauncey Billups down too with excellent defense.
This guy is not as good as Dennis Rodman on defense. But he sure studied the book on Rodman.
This is not a time to be angry or upset, although I watched the game next to a woman who broke out in tears. It is no shame to be second best. The Spurs were the better team on this one night and claimed the title that could have gone either way.
Duncan was the man this night and he deserved his third MVP award. But a part of me wonders why was he even out there Thursday night? Why were the Pistons even in San Antonio?
The Rasheed blunder haunted them to the bitter end.
Sheed giveth and he taketh away.

58 Comments:

Blogger h bomb said...

Can't believe its over - can't wait until next year.

NOT interested in assigning blame or shame. Truth is- it was within reach.

What a drama! Thanks to people on this blog for making the playoffs even more interesting, if that is possible.

4:11 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheed is what he is. That includes being the guy who could actually score against tight defense, unlike Hamilton or Prince. Instead of wishing for more we probably need to look for an extra piece to the puzzle. Meanwhile it's no shame to lose to the Spurs, a worthy champion that Detroit fans can genuinely respect.

6:17 AM

 
Anonymous Brian said...

Well I'm still proud of our guys. There's no shame in losing Game 7 to a team like the Spurs.

It simply came down to execution and who wanted to step up. Unfortunatly neither happened.

Joe D is going to have to stregthen our bench. Other than Antonio, it was non-existent.

Terry you gotta talk about the reffing. I'm not blaming the refs for the loss because it was bad both ways. It was Game 7 of the NBA Finals. People came to watch the players play the game, not the refs. Because of those refs, the game was just about unbearable.

One more thing. The turning point in the game: Chauncey Billups throws a full court pass into triple coverage. Spurs convert on the turnover, got back in the game and never looked back.

7:18 AM

 
Blogger Tom said...

It's hard to step up when you end up with 4 fouls by the early 3rd quarter, and so does the guy coming off the bench that replaces you. When he came in in the 4th, he did a great job. Why didn't they use Elden Campbell more in this series to use up fouls on Duncan?

As far as Sheed goes, live by the sword, die by the sword.

7:40 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

First off let me say this I picked the pistons in 6 then it had to change 7. I was on parr until a couple things happened. I thought the officials did not let the players play I find it hard to believe that Rasheed and Mcydess had 4 fours each and Duncan 1. Okay bottom line the refs got into the pistons heads and this time the team could not over come it. They had a 9 point lead going in then boom a foul here and there then we are stuck having to play Tayshaun on Duncan. With all that said props to the Spurs. The officials did not make Rip go 6 for 18. The officials did not tell Chauncey to only shoot 8 shots. What official did do is not allow a flow to be established. I thought okay refs make your point in the first half and let things go in second. I know folks will say well it was tied going into the fourth. But our bigs could not be aggressive on Mr Duncan. Props to Duncan for sinking his free throws but his shooting percentage was not the hottest. I do SALUTE THE PISTONS BECUASE THEY REPRESENTED WITH ALL THEY HAD. Terry I agree and I remember Mike said it After we lost game 5 and won Game 6 it should have been over with. We ride and sink with Rashizzle. Terry any truth to larry having to use a catheter to urinate each and every time. One more observation the pistons I thought were tired out. I think with Larry shortening his bench the way he did It looked the players were out of gas. It was not like Larry had a choice I do recognize that. I do wonder though if we had delfino which i did wonder awhile back on this blog as opposed to the human victory cigar would it have made a difference. Real Right Way props to you for sticking to your guns but I know deep down you were worried a little bit. I look forward to blogging with every one on different topics as well. I can't wait when we all can give our prescriptions for the team. Now what to do for the dog days of summer Terry and Mike time for you guys to earn your keep hahahhaah

8:48 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

sorry for the book

8:49 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but even though the Pistons didn't shoot well, the refs called way too many ticky-tack BS fouls, especially in the first half. My God, it was obscene. Some 'fouls' at the end of the 2nd qtr were shocking - they weren't even touched. I can't help but be sick that the refs controlled this GAME 7 and didn't just let them play.

Worst refs in 'professional' sports.

8:57 AM

 
Anonymous DetroitTitan said...

If David Stern is wondering why TV ratings were down for this series, all he needs to do is take a look at the first half of game seven and its officiating... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

9:19 AM

 
Anonymous Nathan said...

It was a tense game that definately kept me on edge until the end. The Spurs played a better game, and they deserve the championship. I think we all have to be men and give Duncan his due for coming through. Late in the game he just kept snagging offensive rebounds, and he deserves the championship.

Next year should be exciting. I have to believe the Pistons will do everything they can to get another forward to come off the bench, and they should get a pretty darn good SG in the draft.

You know Indiana is going to be better, assuming whoever they snag to replace Miller can be serviceable.

And to keep pace, Miami has to, and probably will, upgrade their team. If I were Miami, I'd look for a starting PF, and move Haslem to the bench.

Philly will be better, no doubt... and if the Cavs can get a complement to LeBron (Redd?)... man, this will be quite a battle next season. Should be a blast. I'll be surprised if any team runs away with the East. I think it will be quite the competition down to the wire. I'm ready for it already.

Obviously, I have to say congrats to the Pistons, also. They played a rediculous up-and-down playoff, but it was a blast rooting for them. As I said, I'm excited for next year. Good season for the Pistons -- all I can say is that at least they were beaten by a classy team.

10:05 AM

 
Anonymous rob v. said...

During the regular season, there were an average of 43 fouls called in games involving the Pistons, and 44 in games involving the Spurs. There were 44 last night.

The refs didn't cost the Pistons the game. The Pistons just went cold at an incredibly inopportune time...the fourth of quarter of Game 7 of the Finals. They have nothing to be ashamed of, other than, perhaps, all the whining that they did about the officiating over the course of the playoffs.

Getting to the Finals isn't easy. The Spurs are a very, very good team. Hopefully Detroit will regroup, maintain focus throughout the regular season next year, and we'll have an opportunity to see another Game 7 between these two teams next year...at The Palace.

10:14 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One last note - if I see Ginobili flipping his hair one more time...I'll...I'll...he's a girlie-man.

10:14 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

billionaire..

No doubt, I was scared, you can't give the Pistons back the momentum when you just won on their home court.

So yes, I was scared. But I knew Duncan would show up. I hoped he would be joined by others.

I will say this, I never ever expected Robert Horry to be such a factor at the beginning of this series. This guy really is a baller. I didn't think he had the legs to play like he did this late in the season..
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Most surprising is they won without Eva Longoria in the stands. They always play better when she shows up.

10:18 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

detroittitan...
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Come on according to David Stern the ratings are down because they let high schoolers jump to the NBA.

10:21 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

The question I have now is, how will the Pistons handle the Darko Milicic debacle now.

If they look to improve their bench, doesn't that push Darko deeper down the line, "if you can get any deeper.".

10:31 AM

 
Anonymous Jazzy J said...

The refs did change the game. By calling little touch fouls early they took the aggressiveness away from the Pistons. It's game 7, they should only call real fouls. Something has to be done about officiating INCONSISTENCY and BIAS.

10:31 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Real right way upon further reflection and looking over the game I must give Duncan his due. Also I must say Bowens played a role. The droughts did catch up to. Nathan I agree with you that next season will be hype once again although I feel the only comps will be the Heat and maybe the pacers. I disagree on getting a good shooting gaurd that low in the draft. Rob V your looking at the total number of fouls the key is when they are called. Next Season finals can they do it like TNT starting at 8 versus 9. Also can they swap the crews of tnt for abc. I really wish Mcdyess could have gotten this ring Bottom line props to the Pistons and Spurs

10:33 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Rasheed's guarantee streak came to an end last night.

The only cork he popped last night was on a bottle of Ripple....do they put corks on Ripple?

10:36 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Dang Real on Darko I feel if he gets a full offseason i think he will be ok

10:36 AM

 
Blogger Leelanau Sports Guy said...

It was a great season for the Pistons, congrats to them.

I just never understand why the ball wan't going down to Rasheed in the 4th quarter everytime down the floor. He scored two quick baskets and then ended up on the weak side on a couple of possessions. Get him the ball!

10:37 AM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

I was also disappointed in the officiating. They did not let guys play early in the game. It was too ticky tack and soft. But it is my understanding the officials warned players before the game that that was the way it was going to be so deal with it.
Still, I say let them play. But thats me.

10:47 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad it is over. The better team won.

I loved all the comments on the officiating and David Stern. I didn't see any comments on how a little market team in Indiana got the death blow from the Piston's Wallace, Fans, and Mr. Stern.

The Pistons should have not been in the playoffs just because they are a large market team.

Come on Guys don't complain now because David Stern and the refs did'nt take care of you in the finals.

10:48 AM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

Get ready for it guys. Darko is going to play. I am convinced Larry Brown will not coach the Pistons. And the new coach will have the edict to play darko

10:49 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

If Darko plays significant minutes, this will be a death blow to the Pistons.
..
I think his demeanor is indicative of everything about him. He isn't motivated enought to play with the bigs in the NBA. If he takes minutes from Ben or Rasheed, "just because" This team will implode.

10:56 AM

 
Anonymous Nathan said...

No doubt that the officiating wasn't very good, but that doesn't change that the Spurs still played the better game.

I agree that the foul trouble changed how the bigs could play Duncan, but out there late, when all your bigs have 4 fouls, it doesn't matter if you foul him. It's the end of a game 7 and you still have 2 fouls. You have to use them. Duncan just simply went up and took rebound after rebound away on offense over the last few possesions, and the foul situation would not have changed that.

11:03 AM

 
Anonymous Brad said...

This series could have easily gone the other way two. You have to figure if the Pistons had made one more shot earlier in the game or if San Antonio had missed one more free throw, it would have been over in game 6. Tough Loss, cant wait untill next season.

11:05 AM

 
Anonymous Nathan said...

Terry --

You are right about what you posted yesterday. Most fans will always have this inferiority complex. On SportsCenter, I was really (pleasently) surprised to hear the NBA crew talk about how great of a player Billups is, and how tough the Pistons were through the playoffs.

Sure, there are some journalists that aren't giving the Pistons their due, but there are just as many that will say the same thing about every other team in the NBA.

I think it's time for most Pistons fans to lose the complex. We get respect now.

11:05 AM

 
Blogger MortyCrass said...

I love trolls who come in and try to rub your nose in it. How frickin' childish...

We won with dignity last year.

We lost with dignity this year.

I'm proud of them and the future is bright.

11:08 AM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Nate McMillian would be the best coach for the Pistons.

It is amazing what he did in Seattle. He could continue the defensive intensity the Pistons are known for. I don't know that Flip Saunders would bring it.

11:15 AM

 
Anonymous rob v. said...

billionaire, here's a breakdown of total fouls by quarter:

1: DP 5, SA 4
2: DP 12, SA 9
3: DP 18, SA 15
4: DP 24, SA 20

The refs called it close both ways. I would've preferred to see them let both teams play, but the Pistons didn't get hosed.

Detroit lost because they didn't make plays down the stretch in the 4th, and the Spurs did.

11:17 AM

 
Anonymous Mr. Troll said...

mortycrass.

Where is complaining about the refs fall into losing with dignity? Just a little question from a Troll..

Inquiring Troll's want to know.

11:19 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Names are not necessary troll this and that. Real I have wondered on darko's demeanor but i think Rash and Ben will toughen him up. Coaches who ever comes in if not Larry will be compared to larry by folks in the media and even by us fans who are pissed at him ( I don;t understand why) I don't see Flip nor Nate personally I don;t see any coach I just hope this does not become an implosion or the team tunes out the coach

11:23 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Rob V I still disagree check this how many fouls did Duncan have versus Rashizzle and Mcdyess and Ben when Larry had to play Tayshaun on him. For folks that say bring in Elden maybe or maybe not my brother moving at a turtle pace and Duncan and Horry would run circles around him

11:25 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the Fab Five win with Dignity our get paid for their Dignity?

11:26 AM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

I don;t want to sound mean or anything Tears come on folks we are damn near 2000 of soldiers dying like Terry has said keep things in perspective The TEAM has DOne us Proud has exceeded alot of expectations. Even Real ( the Biggest piston hater hahaha) gives props. Mike who always doubted the Pistons came around as well

11:27 AM

 
Blogger hitman said...

The officials didn't lose it for Detroit but there is no doubt they stunted the flow of the game (for both teams). The main difference is that S.A. adjusted and took advantage of the calls on offense while Detroit did not.

I'm with TRRW on Flip Saunders. What is everyone's infatuation with him?

And Darko playing significant minutes...ugh! KG comparisons were heavy before the draft now Detroit would be lucky if he turned into a poor mans Rik Smits.

11:35 AM

 
Anonymous Nathan said...

Hahaha...

A poor man's Rik Smits.

11:54 AM

 
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2:10 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Game 7 of the NBA Finals should not be a whistle fest. The refs should let the players play and decide the game on the court. Comparing the number of fouls is ridiculous, timing is a huge key in the game. However, if you want consider that they lost by 7 with 4 more fouls, flip flop the number of fouls and you could be talking about a 8-10 pt swing. It can make a difference.

That being said, the home court advantage in the playoffs, especially the Finals with the 2-3-2, is a big deal. I guess the 2 losses to the Bobcats, 1 to the Hawks, and the lackadaisical play under Gar Heard really does matter.

2:32 PM

 
Anonymous rob v. said...

Sure, timing of fouls matters. And yeah, the Pistons got into some foul trouble. But it was obvious after the first quarter that this was going to be a closely officiated game. One team adjusted, the other didn't. One team hit shots in the fourth quarter, the other didn't. One team protected its' lead, the other didn't.

I'm not taking anything at all away from the Pistons...I was thrilled with the way they bounced back in this series. But they were beaten by a very good team, not hosed by the officials.

2:42 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

agreed. in retrospect their most realistic shot to win was to come back to SA up 3-2 and try to steal one of the final 2 games (most likely game 6). you never know what would have happened in game 6 or 7 if they had won game 5 but their chances were much greater to win it all.

i agree with TFos, sheed blew game 5 w/ one of the most boneheaded plays in Det sports history. too busy thinking about his post game sound bites to listen to his coach say no 3s and no doubles. but that is what you get w/ Sheed, no chance you win a title last year and no chance you are in the finals this year w/o him. however, they could be celebrating a back to back title with Kwame in his Spirit of Detroit sized Pistons jersey...

2:53 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

I think too much is being put on Rasheed's "bonehead play." Trust me, I am no Rasheed fan, in fact when the Piston's brought him in, that's when I started following other teams.

Like many things basketball is often played on instinct, not allows fundamentals. Personally, I don't want to watch robots out there playing.

Had Rasheed made a great play and stole the ball, he would be a hero. Clearly it was the wrong decision, but to put this whole series on the guy for a play of "effort", I think its wrong. It's not like he left his man for no reason, he was out there fighting to win. .
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coming from a non-Sheed fan

3:11 PM

 
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It was a joke right?
I imagined that. Right?

3:11 PM

 
Anonymous rob v. said...

Got yourself some comment spam, Terry. You're officially a blogger now.

3:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

be real, real right way. i love sheed as much as the next guy. he is an intriguing player and a highly skilled player who is highly compensated for playing basketball. i would rather have a league full of sheed's than a league full of vanilla duncan's. he was the final piece of dumar's puzzle that brought 2 straight finals appearances and an nba title to d-town.

there is a razor thin difference between these 2 teams and any one play could be the difference in a game or series. the guy was told NO 3s, NO DOUBLE TEAMS IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS and then less than 60 seconds later he leaves the one guy that was on fire and known for hitting big shots to double team balki bartakimous. totally inexcusable and at the same time unfortunate.

detroit loves isiah thomas even though he made that horrible pass v. the celtics...

3:30 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Anonymous...

Whether the guy is highly compensated makes no difference. I don't care if the guy makes more money than Bill Gates. I don't want to see robots out on the floor.

Sure some players are more heady than others. That's part of the intrigue. I am more upset with Rasheed for his conduct with the referees.

By the way, "Vanilla Duncan" almost single handedly beat the Pistons. They pound that ball down to "Vanilla Duncan" and it was all about him in crunch time.

I will take Duncan over Sheed any day of the week.

4:28 PM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Real come on now you Tim Duncan is a boring player. No flare what;'s so ever reminds me a female who is the book worm type but has no sense of style or pizazz and you know that is the kind of female you don;t call back unless your just totally bored hahahaha. But tim is truly fundamentaled and I give him his due grudgingly although he did admit to wanting to revert back to tiny Tim

5:05 PM

 
Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

billionaire....


A Piston fan talking about boring????.

Tim Duncan certainly isn't exciting, but come on, I wouldn't classify the Piston's play as exciting. At least the Spurs have Ginobili who can create some excitement from time to time.

Damn, even old man Horry is more exciting than most of the Pistons.

5:53 PM

 
Blogger billionaire said...

Now real i know our team is not the most exciting but you know us fans are hypocrits hahahahha Besides nobody has ever said this team has any superstars. I do think that Rip and Chauncey are on that edge of it. Ginobili does have a flare however it is not consistent. But I am sorry Tim Duncan still takes the cake.

8:18 PM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

The last time I checked Ripple was the easy twist off cap. LOL

11:19 PM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

right way,
I was on seattle radio today and McMillian really wants the Pistons job. He can't do anything right now until his contract expires. I believe rasheed wallace knows him. so that is cool and he might be the same influence to him Larry Brown was for the most part

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